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Ouch, that was painful to watch.
Oh I HATE the language-“refuses to step aside”??? Really?
Folks, if Joe Biden decides not to run, the presstitutes and pundits aren't going to be satisfied. They'll want him to resign as President. Or they'll start howling about Biden needs to be removed under the 25th Amendment. This is a slow-motion coup attempt. We have to stand firm!
— Deana "Little Cults Everywhere" Holmes (@mmmirele.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T17:48:12.413Z
Jimmy Fallon jab
“The media has spent almost two weeks calling for a candidate to drop out of the race and somehow it’s not the convicted felon.”
re: #2 mmmirele
Oh I HATE the language-“refuses to step aside”??? Really?
Because it makes him sound like a cantankerous old man who does not know when it is time to retire and shouts at clouds and kids on his lawn.
They know exactly what they are doing.
re: #311 aatharuv
I think we all knew there was going to be no floor fight for the Republicans.
There was reportedly an attempt by the AZ GOP to change the rules to allow a contested nomination, possibly to support Michael Flynn, because Donnie was not extreme enough, but that apparently got resolved.
Came in 2nd
90+ delegates
Doesnt even get a speaking slot
re: #5 Dangerman
Came in 2nd
90+ delegates
Doesnt even get a speaking slot
Was tossed under the bus by DJT as a traitor to her party and to the MAGA cause.
re: #2 mmmirele
Oh I HATE the language-“refuses to step aside”??? Really?
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My answer is this. Grand bargain. Trump pulls out first. Then Joe. Then we can run Kamala, they can run MTG. Lol.
re: #7 Rightwingconspirator
My answer is this. Grand bargain. Trump pulls out first. Then Joe. Then we can run Kamala, they can run MTG. Lol.
Boebert!!!
re: #4 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Because it makes him sound like a cantankerous old man who does not know when it is time to retire and shouts at clouds and kids on his lawn.
They know exactly what they are doing.
They’ve instantly turned him into the guy who hasnt been able to feed himself for the last 6 months and no one noticed
*I* think he’s gonna get past this just fine
re: #2 mmmirele
Oh I HATE the language-“refuses to step aside”??? Really?
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I mentioned something like this the other night, that every Dem across the land is going to be asked “Should he resign?” or some variation of that every day until he does or until the election, whichever comes first. And there’s no real good answer, either you think he’s mentally compromised or he isn’t. If you think he is, then you’re endorsing keeping a man you think is senile/demented/whatever in charge of the country for the next six months. If you don’t think he is, then why did you push him out?
re: #7 Rightwingconspirator
My answer is this. Grand bargain. Trump pulls out first. Then Joe. * Then we can run Kamala, they can run MTG. Lol.
* then tfg goes “just kidding”
This man was one of the most evil and insidious climate change deniers in Congress. His legacy will be the chaos and death he caused for future generations, as we begin to see what his anti-science propaganda and obstructionism caused.— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-07-09T17:55:43.000Z
tfw you catch a doubled-word typo immediately after posting.
re: #10 Targetpractice
I mentioned something like this the other night, that every Dem across the land is going to be asked “Should he resign?” or some variation of that every day until he does or until the election, whichever comes first. And there’s no real good answer, either you think he’s mentally compromised or he isn’t. If you think he is, then you’re endorsing keeping a man you think is senile/demented/whatever in charge of the country for the next six months. If you don’t think he is, then why did you push him out?
Simple
The answer is no. He should not resign.
I had concerns. They were addressed.
Biden/harris!!
There are signs that the media’s feeding frenzy may be subsiding today.
re: #12 Charles Johnson
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tfw you catch a doubled-word typo immediately after posting.
Yet another right wing loon who will be missed by no one including his family, and who will be celebrated for years as being dead as is the case with Rush Limbaugh.
re: #14 Charles Johnson
There are signs that the media’s feeding frenzy may be subsiding today.
They were expecting the dam to bust open and instead the fever broke
re: #14 Charles Johnson
There are signs that the media’s feeding frenzy may be subsiding today.
I suspect it is heavily influenced by the fact that Congressional Dems have realized their coup attempt has failed, and have started reluctantly supporting the President in public. Once the media realized that neither the voters nor Capitol Hill were listening to them, they realized that just blasting into the void was going to do nothing but further tarnish their already ruined reputation.
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— Seb (@sebthobald) July 6, 2024
re: #14 Charles Johnson
There are signs that the media’s feeding frenzy may be subsiding today.
re: #19 Dangerman
My snarky comment: The media didn’t want to push the needle too much towards Trump, so they started changing their tone. Gotta keep the horse race…
The New York Times front page looks almost naked without five or six articles demanding that Biden drop out because he’s too old.
— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-07-09T18:05:00.000Z
re: #14 Charles Johnson
There are signs that the media’s feeding frenzy may be subsiding today.
Oh, they’ll continue to nurse this particular grudge for the rest of the election, but today’s word from Congress that the rebel faction is outnumbered and demoralized seems to have put the kibosh on any real hope the Beltway had for a messy fight. It’ll spike again immediately before or during the convention, but once it’s clear that the party is united (even reluctantly), they’ll be stuck with little more than their “Biden is OLD!!!!” op-eds.
re: #4 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Because it makes him sound like a cantankerous old man who does not know when it is time to retire and shouts at clouds and kids on his lawn.
They know exactly what they are doing.
I saw the phrase “tenaciously clinging to the nomination” from a previously sane person on Fark. I told him he’s talking about the nominee and sounds insane.
re: #2 mmmirele
Every time anyone hears “step aside,” translate that to “ignore 14,465,519 Democratic primary voters.”
It's not that the Times just now suddenly decided to take a nosedive, its coverage of trans youth, of the confected "plagiarism scandal" at Harvard, and of the protests at Columbia have all been deeply embarrassing
— Ian Boudreau (@iboudreau.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T13:05:12.168Z
It’s almost like the Times has an agenda that amounts to decreasing the window of what is possible, with the narrow window of acceptability consisting exclusively of what rich people that read the Times are comfortable with…
…up to and including a world system in which most people are chucked into the Moloch to keep upper-middle class Americans both materially comfort but also assured that no possible world is better.
Which is why their op ed section is full of people promising that injustices and atrocities created by the global market for cheap labor and cheap raw materials can only be solved by creating more unregulated markets, but occasionally column inches are allocated to excusing dictatorships and state terror when the perps are well-connectd to the global north.
“Should the Democratic party adopt anti-democratic processes? We invited a panel of media talkers to opine.”
Anyone but Trump
-Biden is worth electing again even if he is much worse than he was in the debate (he’s not)
-he is likely to win if we all take Trump seriously like we did in 2020
-Democratic voters paying attention are much more excited now than they were before the bad debate performance.
re: #19 Dangerman
Every quote I see from the rebels continues to further the impression that what is really driving this BS within the party ranks is sore feelings over a failure to replace Biden with someone more to their liking. It’s not about the ability to win in November, it’s about overturning the results of the primaries in order to install the pony of a particular faction’s choosing.
re: #22 Targetpractice
Oh, they’ll continue to nurse this particular grudge for the rest of the election, but today’s word from Congress that the rebel faction is outnumbered and demoralized seems to have put the kibosh on any real hope the Beltway had for a messy fight. It’ll spike again immediately before or during the convention, but once it’s clear that the party is united (even reluctantly), they’ll be stuck with little more than their “Biden is OLD!!!!” op-eds.
Then they can spin:
Biden’s 2 nd admin goals
Vs
the felon and Project 2025
re: #21 Charles Johnson
White noise…. it’s all so much white noise.
The paper is in the bag for Trump, and even now they can’t openly call for Trump to step down because of his criminal convictions, incessant lying, fomenting a coup, trying to overthrow democracy, and how his 2024 platform is even more of that.
They still want to kneecap Biden, and will do so at every opportunity.
re: #23 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
I saw the phrase “tenaciously clinging to the nomination” from a previously sane person on Fark. I told him he’s talking about the nominee and sounds insane.
That kind of talk is generally from people who don’t know how things actually work
re: #12 Charles Johnson
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tfw you catch a doubled-word typo immediately after posting.
I was about to post this, along with a link to his famous stunt where he brought a snowball into the Senate to “prove” that climate change isn’t real.
Burn in hell, Inhofe.
Burn and thrash in the blackness of blacknesses.
You have condemned future generations to live in misery and pain, in a wounded, dying planet.
re: #28 Targetpractice
Every quote I see from the rebels continues to further the impression that what is really driving this BS within the party ranks is sore feelings over a failure to replace Biden with someone more to their liking. It’s not about the ability to win in November, it’s about overturning the results of the primaries in order to install the pony of a particular faction’s choosing.
And it is almost all coming from the Moderate/Clinton wing of the party. The most Progressive politicians (the squad and Sanders) have all strongly supported Biden.
re: #17 Nerdy Fish
I suspect it is heavily influenced by the fact that Congressional Dems have realized their coup attempt has failed, and have started reluctantly supporting the President in public. Once the media realized that neither the voters nor Capitol Hill were listening to them, they realized that just blasting into the void was going to do nothing but further tarnish their already ruined reputation.
You come at the king you’d better not something something.
The open rebels, they need to be elected. No third party bullshit that just punishes the Dems and does nothing to advance anyone’s cause. After they’re elected, they can get offices in the basement next to the bathrooms and the garbage dumpsters.
re: #24 jaunte
Every time anyone hears “step aside,” translate that to “ignore 14,465,519 Democratic primary voters.”
the ‘step aside’ argument has been going on for years
because a lot of those younger people cant get any traction
they want it made easier for them by having the experienced, older (and wiser) folks just get out of the way
politics is not about giving up or giving in.
if you are qualitatively better, it should be easy for you to take the nom, or the job, or whatever
what really pisses them off is that it’s their ideas that dont sell well enough
re: #33 silverdolphin
And it is almost all coming from the Moderate/Clinton wing of the party.
The very ones who themselves are locked in an old mentality, seemingly unable to appreciate just how repulsively radical the GOP has become. Either that, or they’re pissy about Biden’s progressive stances on labor unions, worker rights, etc. and are kowtowing to corporate donors (who have always been all too happy to fund strong GOPers and weak Dems).
re: #28 Targetpractice
Every quote I see from the rebels continues to further the impression that what is really driving this BS within the party ranks is sore feelings over a failure to replace Biden with someone more to their liking. It’s not about the ability to win in November, it’s about overturning the results of the primaries in order to install the pony of a particular faction’s choosing.
And to them I say:
Biden is my purity pony!
Anybody but trump
re: #12 Charles Johnson
I hope he went screaming.
re: #20 aatharuv
This bit made me want to scream:
“The backdrop here is brutal for House Democrats and the broader Democratic Party. It appears they’re stuck with Biden, unwilling or unable to move against him. The political picture is incredibly grim for the party.”
This “political picture is grim for the party” such malarky.
re: #14 Charles Johnson
I have felt the tide shifting since yesterday, still not watching the networks, might check in later.
re: #37 Interesting Times
The very ones who themselves are locked in an old mentality, seemingly unable to appreciate just how repulsively radical the GOP has become. Either that, or they’re pissy about Biden’s progressive stances on labor unions, worker rights, etc. and are kowtowing to corporate donors (who have always been all too happy to fund strong GOPers and weak Dems).
Yep. The chronic ‘GOP lite” wing. Hope this is the last time we hear from them.
It’s maddening that so many people are being distracted by the ‘Biden old’ story while fascists are actively working to end civil rights for women and minorities and installing an emperor.
re: #14 Charles Johnson
There are signs that the media’s feeding frenzy may be subsiding today.
Yep. “NO!!!!” Is taking effect.
Stuart was on a roll last night. I don’t know what the deal is there. Aster the 1st 3 sentences I was out.
re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg
Meanwhile, in the latest dispatch from the hate district:
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It’s funny that Trump doesn’t know that he’s incapacitated by NPD and dementia. Maybe making baby sounds instead of words is just fine when you have NPD, and can tell yourself that you meant to do that.
re: #43 silverdolphin
Do you have a Threads account? If so, I’d recommend following Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin for a mix of perfect messaging and information you won’t see promoted in the corporate media:
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It’s amazing to me that so many of the “Biden must resign” people are blithely unconcerned about throwing out millions of primary votes for Biden. Those people don’t count?
I thought disenfranchising voters was supposed to be a Republican thing.
— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-07-09T18:29:05.000Z
re: #49 Charles Johnson
They really are a collection of fatuous feckless fuckwits.
re: #36 Dangerman
the ‘step aside’ argument has been going on for years
because a lot of those younger people cant get any traction
they want it made easier for them by having the experienced, older (and wiser) folks just get out of the waypolitics is not about giving up or giving in.
if you are qualitatively better, it should be easy for you to take the nom, or the job, or whateverwhat really pisses them off is that it’s their ideas that dont sell well enough
There’s an argument to be made that the older members of both parties need to bow out of seeking reelection and allowing younger candidates to seek the office. But the time to do that came and went for this election season, the bulk of the primaries are done and over, the voters have made their decisions as far as who is on the ballot. If they wanted someone younger on the ballot, then they should have got that person to run in the primaries and make their case.
re: #49 Charles Johnson
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They lost their minds in the first 20 minutes of the debate, or are at least pretending to have done so, and like the minds lost to 9/11, some of them will not be coming back.
re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg
Meanwhile, in the latest dispatch from the hate district:
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Name one illegal migrant who has the right or ability to vote.
Just one
re: #51 Targetpractice
It’s absolutely weird how “young” people are supposedly opposed to Biden, when he’s pushed the most pro-young policies of any recent president and the most progressive agenda in decades.
Yeah, he’s old. That’s not the problem.
The problem is that “young” people have bought the bulkshit spewed by pundits and media outlets who think old is worse than being a convicted felon (who is also almost as old).
I also am glad to see the younger members of congress get behind biden. Yeah we all know he’s old but he is doing a damn good job.
re: #51 Targetpractice
There’s an argument to be made that the older members of both parties need to bow out of seeking reelection and allowing younger candidates to seek the office. But the time to do that came and went for this election season, the bulk of the primaries are done and over, the voters have made their decisions as far as who is on the ballot. If they wanted someone younger on the ballot, then they should have got that person to run in the primaries and make their case.
One sentence
Ezzacto
-“The whole country is going to hell, if Biden wins again, which he didn’t the last time….”
“Thank God for Putin he’s being patient right now seeing what’s going on but if Biden wins, that’s off the table” @MeidasTouch pic.twitter.com/9j5xLtOUqr— 🇺🇦BostonBrian🇺🇸 (@BostonBrian23) July 9, 2024
re: #54 lawhawk
Honestly, I don’t see young people ditching him, hell the youngest members of congress are all in as well now.
re: #54 lawhawk
It’s absolutely weird how “young” people are supposedly opposed to Biden, when he’s pushed the most pro-young policies of any recent president and the most progressive agenda in decades.
Yeah, he’s old. That’s not the problem.
The problem is that “young” people have bought the bulkshit spewed by pundits and media outlets who think old is worse than being a convicted felon (who is also almost as old).
Almost as old, in worse health, and with a MUCH less healthy mind and brain.
re: #57 DodgerFan1988
Putin, who’s two years into a quick week-long blitz of Ukraine?
re: #55 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
I also am glad to see the younger members of congress get behind biden. Yeah we all know he’s old but he is doing a damn good job.
Old is the excuse
If he was 20 years younger and the same debate performance, i’d wager the same reaction
Omg, horrible debate, he can’t win, boot him out now, not too late!!
re: #60 jaunte
Putin, who’s two years into a quick week-long blitz of Ukraine?
Cruelty good, competence bad.
/MAGA Philosophy 101
re: #62 Interesting Times
That guy is a coward looking for Big Daddy.
He thought it was true until his fossil fuel industry owners yanked his chain.
— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-07-09T18:39:08.000Z
re: #61 Dangerman
Old is the excuse
If he was 20 years younger and the same debate performance, i’d wager the same reaction
Omg, horrible debate, he can’t win, boot him out now, not too late!!
They lost their shit in 2012 when Obama had a “bad” first debate performance. It was over, he was unpopular, the party was wrong to elect a young guy, and he should step aside for “someone” more progressive/popular to beat Romney in November.
re: #57 DodgerFan1988
Trump has been spewing apocalyptic nonsense about how awful the country is and that only Trump can save them.
They’ve drunk the kool aid to be sure.
Trump left the economy in a worse state than when he inherited it.
Biden has grown the economy and has a great jobs record. Stock market at record highs.
Trump oversaw the purposeful destruction of our public health system and faith in same.
Trump pushed junk science and BS, resulting in a disproportionate number of deaths among his own base because they refused to vaccinate. More died in red states than blue states/regions once vaccinations became widely available. Per capita death rates were far higher in red states. That’s all on Trump and the GOP.
He killed his own, and didn’t care, because he thought he was doing more damage to blue states (he wasn’t - his delays to give PPE and other aid to states at the outset killed people to be sure, but his antivax stance kills far more (and is still killing ppl)).
re: #47 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
It’s funny that Trump doesn’t know that he’s incapacitated by NPD and dementia. Maybe making baby sounds instead of words is just fine when you have NPD, and can tell yourself that you meant to do that.
Mental illness is relative to social expectations of efficient behavior.
In a late stage capitalist, hyper-individualist culture Trump is sane because so many people view his behavior as not just reasonable but ideal. We’ve spent centuries selling the idea that money is virtue and intellect, and that’s been so successfully injected into the culture that the downstream products are syncretic ideas like “money is a sign of divine favor” and” if they have money and power they get to do things,” or the classic “this must produces a good outcome (even though all I can see is suffering) because the right people are doing it.” The process of whitewashing cynics and psychopaths through philanthropy has been so successful that people don’t even need to see the performative generosity, they just infer the moral intent and conscientious wisdom are in some way present.
re: #66 lawhawk
Thanks Trump for the infrastructure week President Biden. $6.8 billion set aside for Gateway tunnel project, which will build 2 new tunnels into Manhattan from New Jersey and create redundancy and additional capacity on the NEC as the original 2 tunnels are able to be rehabilitated after the new tunnels are completed. This is due to Biden’s infrastructure bill, and follows Trump’s refusal to fund the project (blocking this shovel ready project for years).
Richard M. Carpiano, PhD, MPH @rmcarpiano.bsky.social
One helluva story on the impacts of Bitcoin on the health of people in a Texas community after a local business invested in Bitcoin farming computers that run at all hours…
“…Over the course of several months in 2024, TIME spoke to more than 40 people in the Granbury area who reported a medical ailment that they believe is connected to the arrival of the Bitcoin mine: hypertension, heart palpitations, chest pain, vertigo, tinnitus, migraines, panic attacks. At least 10 people went to urgent care or the emergency room with these symptoms.”
time.com
re: #62 Interesting Times
Cruelty good, competence bad.
/MAGA Philosophy 101
Fascism good, patriarchy good, white supremacy good, theocracy good, equal rights for minorities bad.
re: #67 The Ghost of a Flea
Mental illness is relative to social expectations of efficient behavior.
In a late stage capitalist, hyper-individualist culture Trump is sane because so many people view his behavior as not just reasonable but ideal. We’ve spent centuries selling the idea that money is virtue and intellect, and that’s been so successfully injected into the culture that the downstream products are syncretic ideas like “money is a sign of divine favor” and” if they have money and power they get to do things,” or the classic “this must produces a good outcome (even though all I can see is suffering) because the right people are doing it.” The process of whitewashing cynics and psychopaths through philanthropy has been so successful that people don’t even need to see the performative generosity, they just infer the moral intent and conscientious wisdom are in some way present.
Having dysfunctional people believe a person is sane does not make that person sane.
Trump put himself on the hanging upside down from a gas station awning life-path, planning to hurt decent Americans on the way to his own brutal demise. That is not sane.
Live your life in such a way that there won’t be a miles-long line of people waiting their turn to piss on your grave.
— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-07-09T18:53:36.000Z
re: #72 Charles Johnson
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re: #62 Interesting Times
Cruelty good, competence bad.
/MAGA Philosophy 101
Also, most people don’t matter so a meat grinder war is just…acceptable.
The assumption, as always, is that the American reactionary is a priori understood to be in the upper castes that cannot be sacrificed. Each reactionary has their own categorization system for why they are upper-caste, but they are unified in their stony confidence that it is impossible that they will feed the pyre. They’re not just temporarily embarrassed millionaires, but oligarchs stripped of their rightful authority by a conspiracy of inferiors that must be penned and disciplined to right the world.
When they admire dictators…and admiration of dictators has been a consistent feature of conservatism for a long time…it’s aspirational because they cannot conceive that the natural hierarchy (in their heads) would not place them in command of the authoritarian state.
re: #73 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
There are people who feel that way about you, just for rejecting fascism when they thought you were one of them.
Tell me about it.
re: #71 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
Having dysfunctional people believe a person is sane does not make that person sane.
Trump put himself on the hanging upside down from a gas station awning life-path, planning to hurt decent Americans on the way to his own brutal demise. That is not sane.
I think Ghost’s point is that sanity vs. insanity is culturally defined, and that the MAGA project (like fascism in general) can be regarded as an attempt to make “sane” what decent people see as insane.
re: #67 The Ghost of a Flea
Mental illness is relative to social expectations of efficient behavior.
In a late stage capitalist, hyper-individualist culture Trump is sane because so many people view his behavior as not just reasonable but ideal. We’ve spent centuries selling the idea that money is virtue and intellect, and that’s been so successfully injected into the culture that the downstream products are syncretic ideas like “money is a sign of divine favor” and” if they have money and power they get to do things,” or the classic “this must produces a good outcome (even though all I can see is suffering) because the right people are doing it.” The process of whitewashing cynics and psychopaths through philanthropy has been so successful that people don’t even need to see the performative generosity, they just infer the moral intent and conscientious wisdom are in some way present.
The two leading psychopaths in charge of social media platforms aren’t particularly known for philanthropy, but at least FB isn’t run by a racist sexist (well, at least, not since his original college website) traitor; indeed so far, Zuck has a normal personal life.
so MSNBC cuts away from senators who have shut them down on the whole biden should drop out nonsense and are talking about policy to go the the white house press briefing so we can watch the white house press corps keep harping the same question.
re: #74 The Ghost of a Flea
Also, most people don’t matter so a meat grinder war is just…acceptable.
The assumption, as always, is that the American reactionary is a priori understood to be in the upper castes that cannot be sacrificed. Each reactionary has their own categorization system for why they are upper-caste, but they are unified in their stony confidence that it is impossible that they will feed the pyre. They’re not just temporarily embarrassed millionaires, but oligarchs stripped of their rightful authority by a conspiracy of inferiors that must be penned and disciplined to right the world.
When they admire dictators…and admiration of dictators has been a consistent feature of conservatism for a long time…it’s aspirational because they cannot conceive that the natural hierarchy (in their heads) would not place them in command of the authoritarian state.
Grinding up men who can’t control themselves in war may be essential to the survival of a civilization. When you let them just stew in their own aggression, they do rotten things like set up weird streaming fascism shows, and vote for Trump to hurt Americans, even when they have easy lives and nothing real to complain about.
It is not a good day when your weather map look like this.
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And we’re off.
we really shouldn't pretend we had a real democratic primary for president this year
my state, third largest in the US, didn't even have one
— wednesday (@mx0x20wednesday.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T19:02:41.082Z
So the millions of people, including me, who voted for Biden in a primary election were what? Just pretending to vote?— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-07-09T19:06:18.000Z
re: #71 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
Having dysfunctional people believe a person is sane does not make that person sane.
Trump put himself on the hanging upside down from a gas station awning life-path, planning to hurt decent Americans on the way to his own brutal demise. That is not sane.
Except he’s not dysfunctioning because what he says and does does not create negative results for him. Just like it doesn’t create negative results for countless scammers, billionaire shitheels, and authoritarian rulers. An active choice to be cruel because cruelty is efficient within a hierarchical society that allows abuses of power according to caste status is not a pathology.
Calling Trump insane, like calling his followers stupid, is a denial that his behavior is coherent and continuous with behavior we view as acceptable within this society without characterizing it as pathology.
re: #79 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
so MSNBC cuts away from senators who have shut them down on the whole biden should drop out nonsense and are talking about policy to go the the white house press briefing so we can watch the white house press corps keep harping the same question.
Joy Reid and Lawrence O’Donnell are decisively against droppiing Biden, Velshi is (I think) mostly over it, and I’m still collecting names — but I don’t watch most of the day.
re: #82 Charles Johnson
I see you trying to undermine the West and enable a traitor who attempted a coup. People like you want to disenfranchise American voters and enable the monster Trump, while desperately pretending to be people of good will.
— Jeff Flanagan (@shazbat.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T19:10:13.733Z
i'm very happy for you but it was not a 50 state election decided by democratic processes
this isn't an argument for or against replacing biden, just saying there wasn't a serious primary, it wasn't a democratic process
— wednesday (@mx0x20wednesday.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T19:08:25.582Z
And your point is what? That it’s cool to throw out the millions of votes by people who didn’t understand they were just pretending?— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-07-09T19:10:51.000Z
re: #82 Charles Johnson
we really shouldn’t pretend we had a real democratic primary for president this year
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was the process materially different than any other year?
re: #87 Charles Johnson
His argument should be with the Florida Democratic party apparatus, which he might attempt to change by participating.
re: #87 Charles Johnson
Shheeez. The Primary in Philly was legit. This “person” is trying to undermine the entire process.
re: #87 Charles Johnson
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I’m detecting a very strong odor of sour grapes, like somebody wasn’t happy that the unicorn failed to win the primaries for the last two primary seasons despite being so wildly popular with huge rallies.
re: #90 jaunte
His argument should be with the Florida Democratic party apparatus, which he might attempt to change by participating.
That requires effort. Something purity ponies don’t understand.
re: #87 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]i’m very happy for you but it was not a 50 state election decided by democratic processes
once again, to her:
was the democratic process used this cycle materially different than any other year?
re: #78 Hecuba’s daughter
The two leading psychopaths in charge of social media platforms aren’t particularly known for philanthropy, but at least FB isn’t run by a racist sexist (well, at least, not since his original college website) traitor; indeed so far, Zuck has a normal personal life.
Okay, but I was talking about the last hundred-someodd years of cultural work to define the wealthy as deserving to be moral guides, which has created the modern perception of wealth as having meritocratic quality. Current rich people are beneficiaries of the work of past rich people, but do not have to engage in precisely the same methods.
In the case of Zuckerburg, that manifests first in his selling of his platforms not as a revenue-generating system which captures subscribers, but as the new basis for human connectivity, but secondarily in how he is directly connected into policy discussions about social media and tech in spite of both a history of lying and skullduggery and having no expertise.
In the case of Musk, Musk’s entire career has been presenting his businesses as philanthropic gestures to save the world and uplift people through scientific positivism, also while pretending to a level of scientific accomplishment and personal virtue that makes him an authority figure and public hero.
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Including Organizations that are listed as Hate Groups by the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center)
re: #92 jaunte
“Florida Democratic Party leaders submitted just President Joe Biden’s name for the ballot back in November, which cancelled the vote and awarded him the state’s delegates.”
wfla.com
ah, now i see
i was figuring california as the third largest state (area)
not florida (population)
sometimes im a bit slow and/or dense
re: #91 wrenchwench
The AG should immediately empower a special prosecutor to investigate the SCOTUS. It’s clear that they can’t police themselves, and corruption is rampant. They should specifically look at the misconduct by Alito, Thomas, and maybe find whoever leaked the draft Dobbs ruling for good measure.
re: #100 lawhawk
The AG should immediately empower a special prosecutor to investigate the SCOTUS. It’s clear that they can’t police themselves, and corruption is rampant. They should specifically look at the misconduct by Alito, Thomas, and maybe find whoever leaked the draft Dobbs ruling for good measure.
IANAL — but was leaking the draft Dobbs ruling illegal?
re: #100 lawhawk
The AG should immediately empower a special prosecutor to investigate the SCOTUS. It’s clear that they can’t police themselves, and corruption is rampant. They should specifically look at the misconduct by Alito, Thomas, and maybe find whoever leaked the draft Dobbs ruling for good measure.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In the wake of Hurricane Beryl, Texans are using a Whataburger App to figure out who lost power.
re: #92 jaunte
“Florida Democratic Party leaders submitted just President Joe Biden’s name for the ballot back in November, which cancelled the vote and awarded him the state’s delegates.”
wfla.com
and ok, now i’ve read the article.
i live here. i should remember it.
i dont because it was a nothingburger.
what would have been different if florida had held a primary?
Phillips, Williamson and Uygur?? that’s what this is about?
Biden clinched the delegates on 3/12
before florida would have held the primary
Democratic Lawmaker Points Out Trump-Sized Elephant In The Room On Fox NewsRep. Jake Auchincloss (D-Mass.) wondered on Fox News why Democrats are the only ones having a “public and painful conversation” about their party’s presidential nominee amid concerns about their candidate’s fitness for office.
Fox News host John Roberts asked Auchincloss on Monday whether President Joe Biden can win the November election, following intensified scrutiny after the June presidential debate.
The congressman pointed out Biden is the candidate millions of Democratic voters selected in the primaries.
“Unlike the Republican Party, we respect free and fair elections, and what unifies us as a party is knowing that Donald Trump is an existential threat to democracy,” he said. “And my challenge to my Republican colleagues is: Why aren’t you having this same public and painful conversation about your nominee?”
He noted that Trump, too, behaved problematically at the debate, pointing to the former president’s incessant lies, his refusal to say he would accept the results of the 2024 election, the violence he incited on Jan. 6, 2021, and his stances on Social Security and Russia’s war on Ukraine.“How much more do House Republicans need to hear before they’re willing to do the right thing?” he asked.
re: #87 Charles Johnson
There’s almost never a serious primary vs. a sitting president, so I don’t know what clown-shoes here is going on about.
yes, i think that an election in which some states hold a primary and others just decide the outcome behind closed doors is a farce
— wednesday (@mx0x20wednesday.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T19:20:30.385Z
Are you new to this election thing?In many states, no Democrat will run against an incumbent. This isn’t difficult o grasp. You don’t have a primary if nobody in your state wants to run.
That doesn’t mean the states that DO have primaries are just “pretending.” But enjoy your cheap cynicism.
— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-07-09T19:25:22.000Z
re: #83 The Ghost of a Flea
Except he’s not dysfunctioning because what he says and does does not create negative results for him. Just like it doesn’t create negative results for countless scammers, billionaire shitheels, and authoritarian rulers. An active choice to be cruel because cruelty is efficient within a hierarchical society that allows abuses of power according to caste status is not a pathology.
Calling Trump insane, like calling his followers stupid, is a denial that his behavior is coherent and continuous with behavior we view as acceptable within this society without characterizing it as pathology.
His behavior is not coherent. He has major pathology. Being accepted by the absolute worst of us does not make deranged rambling coherent. He’s not acting stupid and demented to please the rubes.
re: #107 Charles Johnson
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Phillips, Williamson and Uygur
that’s what this is about
re: #107 Charles Johnson
Yet you arrived at not knowing how elections work. Does that make any sense, even to you?
— Jeff Flanagan (@shazbat.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T19:30:48.178Z
“Under Florida law, it’s up to state parties to determine which candidates will appear on the presidential primary ballot.”
politico.com
re: #57 DodgerFan1988
Sounds just like my Jesusbot relatives…
re: #110 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
I’m afraid this is a chess with pigeon circumstance.
I edited the threadgate setting for that post, so that only people I follow can reply now, because there were some other tankies showing up, some of them being abusive as they do. I should have known better than to start a conversation with one of these weirdos.
re: #71 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
Having dysfunctional people believe a person is sane does not make that person sane.
Trump put himself on the hanging upside down from a gas station awning life-path, planning to hurt decent Americans on the way to his own brutal demise. That is not sane.
oh who was it….erich fromm! In an insane society (nazi germany), the sane man will of course be viewed as insane.
re: #101 Hecuba’s daughter
Without an investigation to determine if there’s criminal conduct involved, there’s no way to be sure. That’s the point of a criminal investigation - gather the facts to determine if they were legit or not.
To get to 1.5, “Biden would have to implement significant new climate policy measures in the second term. Trump would have to become a completely different person…. there is a massive, quantifiable difference—one that would be deathly irresponsible to ignore.“
open.substack.com/pub/heated/p...— John Schwartz (@jswatz.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T19:44:07.027Z
re: #117 steve_davis
oh who was it….erich fromm! In an insane society (nazi germany), the sane man will of course be viewed as insane.
If you go to a nuthouse and tell the guy that thinks he’s Hitler that he’s not, he’ll call you insane.
When a society is deeply broken, the sane are treated terribly. That does not actually make them insane, just maladapted to an insane environment.
re: #27 Dangerman
Anyone but Trump
-Biden is worth electing again even if he is much worse than he was in the debate (he’s not)
-he is likely to win if we all take Trump seriously like we did in 2020
-Democratic voters paying attention are much more excited now than they were before the bad debate performance.
In the recent Emerson poll that shows Trump leading 46:43, 53% of the respondents said that Trump is a danger to democracy a shouldn’t be elected.
So 46-47% is Trump’s ceiling. Just have to get out the vote come November.
And most people still haven’t heard of project 2025.
Trump will lose.
re: #96 Dangerman
once again, to her:
was the democratic process used this cycle materially different than any other year?
If one means small-d “democratic”, no: both parties had/have the same opportunities, and follow the same general rules. If it’s capital-D “Democratic”, again: not much different. The primary-election dynamics (a strong, popular incumbent with no real opposition and a widespread acceptance among the Party organization) is well within what might be expected, and was widely (correctly) predicted. Yeah, in asshole retrospect, it might look “undemocratic”, but then, who was running against Joe in the Florida D primary? Anybody? and if not, why not?
“It is time not just to end mass immigration, but to reverse it. To rediscover American culture, not multi-culture.
To decolonize and then re-Americanize this country.”
-@RealTheoWold at @NatConTalk pic.twitter.com/6RptogGe5Q— Nick Solheim (@NickSSolheim) July 8, 2024
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re: #123 DodgerFan1988
Hmm, Wold. Doesn’t sound American.
It’s a pattern now. It started with Afghanistan. Or, at least, that’s when the pattern became as entrenched as it is now. Heated criticism of liberals et al. & fights *between* liberals are what drive media coverage. They’re also what drives our interactions w/ each other. https://t.co/mKhagaGIda
— Magdi Jacobs (@magi_jay) July 9, 2024
If you do think about it, the media has been pushing one intra-Dem conflict after another consistently. Intra-GOP conflicts get swept under the carpet. I don’t remember the NYFT putting a cute little counter together for how many Trump appointees called him a threat to democracy, but maybe I just have Parkinsons or something.
re: #121 JC1
So 46-47% is Trump’s ceiling. Just have to get out the vote come November.
That’s why I’ve said the only way he can win is a catastrophic drop in Democratic turnout (and the corporate media evidently feels the same way, which is why they’re doing their level best - or should I say, worst - to bring that catastrophic drop about).
It’s our job to list the multiple orifices where they can stuff their bad-faith arguments.
Rule of thumb for Bluesky:
Abusive tankie: block.
Tankie, but just dumb, not abusive: mute.
The block and mute functions actually work on Bluesky, unlike Twitter.
re: #121 JC1
So 46-47% is Trump’s ceiling. Just have to get out the vote come November.
Yeah: that, to me, is one of the few silver-lining glimpses in the shitshow that is the media reportage on the election. While still disgracefully high, Trump’s poll numbers have seemed pretty much frozen; and probably (just a WAG) unlikely to go up much. And this is before the conventions and the major national ad campaigns starting.*
*personally, NOT looking forward to them
re: #122 Jay C
If one means small-d “democratic”, no: both parties had/have the same opportunities, and follow the same general rules. If it’s capital-D “Democratic”, again: not much different. The primary-election dynamics (a strong, popular incumbent with no real opposition and a widespread acceptance among the Party organization) is well within what might be expected, and was widely (correctly) predicted. Yeah, in asshole retrospect, it might look “undemocratic”, but then, who was running against Joe in the Florida D primary? Anybody? and if not, why not?
yeah
Phillips, Williamson and Uygur
Neil Gaiman hasn’t been on Bluesky since the news broke that he had a history of sexual harassment. Allegedly.
TPUSA ambassador and speaker Evan Kilgore has now taken the “brave” stand of denying the Holocaust.
— Seth Cotlar (@sethcotlar.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T20:01:17.619Z
re: #130 Charles Johnson
Neil Gaiman hasn’t been on Bluesky since the news broke that he had a history of sexual harassment. Allegedly.
He’s a nerd from before it was cool who found success, so harassment would not surprise me. Success does not solve early socialization issues. It puts a person in a position where having been poorly socialized due to rejection from the normies becomes a large problem.
re: #128 Jay C
Yeah: that, to me, is one of the few silver-lining glimpses in the shitshow that is the media reportage on the election. While still disgracefully high, Trump’s poll numbers have seemed pretty much frozen; and probably (just a WAG) unlikely to go up much. And this is before the conventions and the major national ad campaigns starting.*
*personally, NOT looking forward to them
it’s been in the narrative for a long time
election interference aside, tfg *has* to attract new voters.
so where do they come from?
answer: mostly there arent (m)any
re: #123 DodgerFan1988
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I always see this in my head when I hear these guys.
re: #138 allegro
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I always see this in my head when I hear these guys.
Republicans have made me think of Underground Kansas for many years now. They’re just that weird.
re: #137 Dangerman
donalds is a non starter
likely vance or burgum
I can’t remember now exactly where I read it, but it was something to the effect of, Convicted Felon trump preferred one-syllable surnames (hence Pence).
If that’s true, the pick will be Vance.
re: #140 Interesting Times
I can’t remember now exactly where I read it, but it was something to the effect of, Convicted Felon trump preferred one-syllable surnames (hence Pence).
If that’s true, the pick will be Vance.
right.
completely not an insane way to pick a VP //
re: #140 Interesting Times
I can’t remember now exactly where I read it, but it was something to the effect of, Convicted Felon trump preferred one-syllable surnames (hence Pence).
If that’s true, the pick will be Vance.
Because Trump’s a dunce.
TPUSA ambassador and speaker Evan Kilgore has now taken the “brave” stand of denying the Holocaust.
— Seth Cotlar (@sethcotlar.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T20:01:17.619Z
Donald Trump blasted Fox News polling in a Truth Social post and suggested he would release his own “real polls” soon.It’s not clear what polls Trump was referring to.
yeah, that’s a well grounded guy
what the fuck are they even doing over there at this point
— Michael Hobbes (@michaelhobbes.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T19:29:50.356Z
Very disappointed to see Adam Serwer join the pile-on.
re: #147 Charles Johnson
Very disappointed to see Adam Serwer join the pile-on.
They need to be told point-blank that the current corrupt SCOTUS will NOT let another name appear on the ballot. They’ve repeatedly shown they need only the flimsiest pretext to defenestrate precedent and established law, so for the love of all that’s holy do NOT give them that pretext.
re: #148 Interesting Times
They need to be told point-blank that the current corrupt SCOTUS will NOT let another name appear on the ballot. They’ve repeatedly shown they need only the flimsiest pretext to defenestrate precedent and established law, so for the love of all that’s holy do NOT give them that pretext.
— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-07-09T20:27:34.000Z
re: #123 DodgerFan1988
“De-colonize and Re-Americanize this country…”
So the only question is, how soon after the election do Republicans start their Latino concentration camps and “shipping all black people back to Africa?”
re: #146 goddamnedfrank
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re: #80 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
Griding up men who can’t control themselves in war may be essential to the survival of a civilization. When you let them just stew in their own aggression, they do rotten things like set up weird streaming fascism shows, and vote for Trump to hurt Americans, even when they have easy lives and nothing real to complain about.
I would contend that historically societies make material conditions…precarity, personal suffering…that lead men to existential crisis, then introduce cultural pressures that elevate thanatos and the vision of self-actualization through conflict. The entirety of modern masculinity is constructed around channeling an instinct to protect into an ambition to die for abstractions that are presented as load-bearing to normalcy and safety.
Indeed, the constant panic that men don’t want to fulfill masculine duties—specifically the thanatopic ones the degrade the self to maintain the status quo—is a continuous feature of patriarchical societies. Patriarchy is the rule of fathers, not men, and it reproduces itself by winnowing men into complicit fellow-patriarchs, unwilling but trapped participants in patriarchy that can see no alternative, and a stigmatized remainder that is pushed out society. It’s a waltz: panic about the character of young men, propose a discipline for them that coincidentally normalizes both brutality to others and acceptance of brutality from authority figures, then discard any man that fails to operate with acceptable parameters while refusing to acknowledge the artificiality of the system.
What you’re proposing is precisely the last step: we have to make those boys useful or they’ll get in trouble, and their death is a utilitarian step in reproducing the status quo.
The notion that wars remove excess men that otherwise might be trouble is belied twice:
First, by conscription practices historically being utterly uninterested in the native qualia of the recruit or their larger societal utility, as evidenced by how often a war waged between wealthy land-holders required levels of conscription that depleted the value-production and even subsistence-level security of the society at large, and all of the permutations in which soldiers are enslaved, indentured, or otherwise prohibited from being other than soldiers for the benefit of a ruling class that demonstrated little reciprocal concern for “society.”
To say nothing of the 19th-20th imperial mode of army recruitment—levying men from poverty-stricken areas and colonized populations, having deliberately held away from them other means of social advancement—or what’s literally happening in Russia right now, where the ranks are being filled by recruiting from the poorest minorities internally and various desperately-poor foreign nations.
It’s not that the ruling class won’t argue that all those men had no other utility…they absolutely will, they’re monsters pursuing their self-interest but require the pretext of moral guidance to avoid entirely-justified consequences…it’s that when you’ve built the Skinner Box and run the conditioning program you don’t at the end get to moralize about the character flaws of the shocked rat.
Second, by the sheer preponderance of cases in which men run through war or instilled with a martial self-concept create social disruption. The manifold of thanatos is not tidy, once instilled with the idea of self-actualization through death the motive can be found. It’s a damn shame the world is divided between two Abrahamic religions that cooperated with empires in elevating a cult of good martial death, and that successor secular entities simply adopted the same framework but for nationalism…and then for whiteness, and then for anti-Communism, and the for “freedom.”
Germans WW1 veterans became Freikorps; American WW2 veterans became biker gangs. Africa has been washed over by military men granted power and license by a European colonizer, and then waves of child soldiers that grow into men struggling to function is society. The Middle East is beset with terrorists because a great deal of money was spent creating a modern martial doctrine in which being a mujihadeen was the height of self-actualization (especially if you were poor and not a Saudi or Emirati).
German fascism started with veterans. A preponderance of European fascism directly reference the martial culture of their respective empires—the objective was not just regaining those holdings, but regaining the masculinity that was required to inflict control on all those people. Your various post-Ottoman nationalist movements, many of which were ur-fascist or fascist, were veterans intent upon emulating the nationalism and imperialism of existing empires. Our current US fascists are an amalgam that haven’t yet agreed upon the precise martial aesthetic they favor, but the general trend is nostalgia for an era in which men willingly submitted to reactionary authority and performed the violence necessary for the reproduction of that male-led hierarchical society.
It’s the exact opposite of “young men get into bad stuff and must be culled”: old men with power turn young men into tools of ideology, fully understanding that they’re damaging them in ways that push them out of society…even pointedly constructing societal boundaries such that those men cannot return. Moralism, the notion that each of these men is somehow acting in free will rather than a subject of the pressures and incentives of the system they are within, plays into the hands of the powerful, who will never, ever, acknowledge that none of the ideals they support cynically reinforce their power.
re: #135 Dangerman
The most important result in our new national poll of registered voters is that a majority of 53% of all voters believe that Donald Trump and his administration would represent “a grave danger to democracy continuing in the United States,” if he wins the election.👇🏼 pic.twitter.com/G8zIAegVoR
— Fernand R. Amandi (@AmandiOnAir) July 9, 2024
re: #147 Charles Johnson
I keep wondering how many of these people are just posturing themselves to say I-told-you-so when Trump wins (in their minds).
Let’s face it - Trump was not only good for Fox News, but many so-called progressives made their money continually writing or commenting about him.
These people who are in the business of being public-people always benefit from some controversy or another.
re: #152 aatharuv
Sure, it increases biodiversity….. twenty million years down the road when species have branched out and evolved to fill niches destroyed.
re: #69 jaunte
Richard M. Carpiano, PhD, MPH @rmcarpiano.bsky.social
When I first saw this, I immediately thought it was going to be some story about “woo woo”.
It’s about actual noise from a data center causing problems.
re: #146 goddamnedfrank
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Presenting a long term so abstract that it can excuse obviously self-serving and destructive short-term decisions.
The future does not exist except as rhetoric, and all the variations of “bad things now don’t matter because it won’t matter later, whether that’s because of a tech miracle or because of the meaninglessness of human scale” are excuses to keep a destructive system going.
re: #150 Florida Panhandler
“De-colonize and Re-Americanize this country…”
So the only question is, how soon after the election do Republicans start their Latino concentration camps and “shipping all black people back to Africa?”
There is going to be an ugly collision between global warming driven migration toward more prosperous, survivable countries, and fascist driven ethnic and racial cleansing out from some of them. I feel within the decade.
re: #119 jaunte
Schwarz may have good intentions, but the 𝝙1.5C ship has sailed.
And unfortunately the ship for 2C is getting ready to push off. And the US President is going to have a hard time marshalling the forces globally to make the changes necessary.
The last President who had a real opportunity to lead the world in this matter was Clinton.
And while Gore tried… Bill Clinton was too domestically political to implement the changes necessary.
re: #161 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Schwarz may have good intentions, but the 𝝙1.5C ship has sailed.
And unfortunately the ship for 2C is getting ready to push off. And the US President is going to have a hard time marshalling the forces globally to make the changes necessary.
The last President who had a real opportunity to lead the world in this matter was Clinton.
And while Gore tried… Bill Clinton was too domestically political to implement the changes necessary.
If Trump slimes his way back into office, though, we’ll blast through 2C within a year. He’ll wreck everything Biden did as a first priority.
Let me rant some more about that:
The unwillingness for certain corners of the intelligentsia to admit the 1.5C ship has sailed tells us about how leadership works… or more accurately fails to work.
So many climate change activists tied their careers to declaring 1.5C to be do-or-die that now once presented with the reality that we are already there… said activists are not happy admitting defeat.
The fallback for some is to declare that the 1.5C target was about the 30 year average, and because the 30 year (1994-2023) average is not at 1.5C above baseline there is still hope.
But while climatologists often pick 30-year averages to speak about climate, they do so in order to differentiate their topic from “weather”.
2023 was by far the warmest year in human record. And it was more than 1.5C higher than the baseline.
And 2024 may be also.
Just because the 30-year average won’t be above 1.5C until the window slips into the late 2030’s will be of no regard to the processes already kicked off.
re: #156 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅
I love the fact the that he plays a classical guitar. Nylon strings have a great sound.
re: #162 Charles Johnson
Eight weeks here in the DMV with no rain, but climate is not shifting. My friends in the Midwest are waiting for the desert, unhappily, but it’s found to happen.
re: #108 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈
His behavior is not coherent. He has major pathology. Being accepted by the absolute worst of us does not make deranged rambling coherent. He’s not acting stupid and demented to please the rubes.
Trump is entirely coherent: he wants revenge and he promises his followers their dividend of revenge.
What could be presented as incoherence is mostly emotional incontinence, a feature he shares with his audience and political fellow travellers, because all hold in common a fundamental belief in their entitlement to be cruel by virtue of their caste status. The don’t talk that way because their brain is wrong, they talk that way because they’ve literally been taught that meaning doesn’t exist separate from their preferences; their internal language is a series of agreed-upon phrases that elicit shared emotions—contempt, hate, schadenfreude—but otherwise has a loose structure. It’s a dialect…a really shitty one with poor grammar rules…but they are internally communicating successfully.
It’s precisely that their ideology is self-serving and nihilistic, but allows them solidarity, that makes them so dangerous. That can Trump can produces language that unifies many types of American grievance is a skill, an exceptionally ugly skill. That that language doesn’t read for other people doesn’t make it meaningless or even demented. Again…this a movement rooted in contempt for all non-hierarchical norms in our society, up to and include norms of speech, because one of the entitlements they hold dearly is they do not have to make sense to other people because other people do not matter.
None of that is mental pathology precisely because the existing ideological components are recognizable and present in US culture to the point you can form a chain of precedents.
The liberal insistence that there is only reproduction of their preferred norms and pathology is revisionist history, the moralistic insistence that the ugly shit in the current day cannot represent a continuity within society from earlier eras…even as those beliefs have remained with us and affected our nation’s path. The descent of bigotry and entitlement into euphemism for a brief period of the 20th century did not actually kill off any of those roots emotions or base assumptions, and their return is entirely understandable without medicalization.
Biden needs to say “I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. And I’m all out of bubble gum. And that’s no malarkey.”
re: #88 Dangerman
was the process materially different than any other year?
It was not Reagan challenging Ford in 1976, or Kennedy challenging Carter in 1980, or Buchannan challenging GHW Bush in 1992. Incumbent presidents don’t often face a real challenge in their re-election primaries - and when they do, the general election tends to go badly for them.
I’ve been resigned to Biden seeking re-election since the midterms - presidential primaries are, unfortunately, a two year process and he’s smart enough to know that if he wasn’t going to run, he needed to announce back then.
re: #162 Charles Johnson
If Trump gets back in the climate change won’t be the only global issue that will be thrown into chaos.
Trump will upend the entire system of international law, as he tries to satisfy the demands of the xenophobic nationalists and deport millions of people.
What did not get enough attention is when the Trump Jr. visited El Salvador along with other dictator wanna-bes:
After Trump’s felony convictions, Republicans visit El Salvador and gush over an authoritarian
In order to keep out the brown people, Trump and his cohorts will endorse gross violations of human rights in places like El Salvador and Guatemala, perhaps even sending in operatives to assist in mass murders.
From handing Ukraine to Putin, throwing NATO into chaos, and dumping any global cooperation on things like climate change, Trump will, along with right-wing authoritarians everywhere, turn the globe into a place darker than it already is.
So yes, I think global warming is a great reset on the millennial scale, but I think Trump being re-elected is a sign that the world is worse off in more imminent ways.
re: #130 Charles Johnson
Neil Gaiman hasn’t been on Bluesky since the news broke that he had a history of sexual harassment. Allegedly.
He’s also been pretty busy, Sandman just ended production for the new season last week.
I’m just having fun now subtly mocking this person’s ridiculousness.
Listen boomer, I'm not here to answer your questions. People like you & your entitled generation ruined our country & has set our world afire. One way or another we will break your sinewy grip on power,
& dismantle your shltty system, even if we have to wait til you're drooling in your soup or dead.— Jules Winnfeild 🏳️⚧ (@juleswinnfeild.bsky.social) 2024-07-09T13:56:08.596Z
Anymouse @anymouse.bsky.social
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The beauty of free speech. I’m allowed to ask questions about why you hold your stance, and you’re free to insult me (or not).
So as it turns out, the entire Squad and the Congressional Black Caucus, and Sen. Sanders are fully behind Biden. Are you against them too?
Anymouse @anymouse.bsky.social
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My “sinewy grip on power” consists of holding a village board seat in a town of ninety-two which overwhelmingly votes for Republicans.
If you want my vast powers as a village trustee, you’re free to move here and organise a campaign. I’m up for election in 2026.
re: #170 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
I am so not surprised that El Salvador elected someone like that. I have been to the country, my wife’s family is from there. The gang problems are so bad there are some places you just DO NOT GO unless you are known to live there and you definitely don’t go if you are a tourist. Want to go to gautemala to see Tikal? Fly, don’t drive because there is a good chance of being kidnapped. Hell her family lives in a community with guards at every entrance, and a 20ft high wall with electrified razor wire on top.
The other stuff doesn’t surprise me either, they are a pretty conservative bunch and very catholic.
re: #167 silverdolphin
Biden needs to say “I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. And I’m all out of bubble gum. And that’s no malarkey.”
They Live/ Duke Nukem 3d. Love the movie and have fond memories of the game.
honestly how can we NOT all get 1000% behind Biden and defeat this insanity
“During an appearance at conservative think-tank the Hudson Institute on Monday, House Speaker Mike Johnson endorsed Trump’s nightmarish desire to deport 15 to 20 million undocumented immigrants from the United States, saying it’s ‘needed,’” the New Republic reports.
Said Johnson: “We will be dealing with this for decades to come. President Trump has said we want to start the largest deportation effort in history. It’s needed. We need to find all these dangerous people, criminals. They’ve emptied out prisons in Central America and sent them all over the border.”
notice how he elides 15-20m undocumented smoothly into they are all dangerous people, criminals, prisoners, etc.
re: #170 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
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So yes, I think global warming is a great reset on the millennial scale, but I think Trump being re-elected is a sign that the world is worse off in more imminent ways.
The tragedy of global warming is that it has lacked imminence until recently/now/soon when corrections are so late in coming, damage has been done.
re: #172 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
I….I…have no words. I am kinda glad I am not on bsky much, it looks like a bigger shit show than threads can be.
re: #137 Dangerman
donalds is a non starter
likely vance or burgum
If the VP candidate was Donalds, it would be interesting to see the number of votes difference, because, you know, DEI.
re: #172 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Way to go Anymouse. :)
re: #174 JC1
They Live/ Duke Nukem 3d. Love the movie and have fond memories of the game.
I was so surprised how much I liked They Live. One of the all time schlocky titles (Up there with I Dismember Momma) but executed so well. And Carpenter has said it is all about pushing back on Reagan policies ;-)
re: #175 Dangerman
honestly how can we NOT all get 1000% behind Biden and defeat this insanity
notice how he elides 15-20m undocumented smoothly into they are all dangerous people, criminals, prisoners, etc.
or this
OK Schools Chief announces that Project 2025 architect Kevin Roberts will help lead a group to completely rewrite the social studies curriculum for OK public schools, claiming he is going to stop teachers from indoctrinating students to “hate America.” https://t.co/SFMCwtCR3p
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) July 9, 2024
re: #160 HypnoToad
There is going to be an ugly collision between global warming driven migration toward more prosperous, survivable countries, and fascist driven ethnic and racial cleansing out from some of them. I feel within the decade.
A great deal of European fascism is now rooted in fears that migrants are security threats, detrimental to the quality of the domestic job market, and a threat to culture.
As I’ve said before, the conservative consensus has quietly been that climate change will kill the global south and that it’s a winning strategy to just close the borders and declare the deaths unavoidable.
In the case of the US, I strongly suspect that private corrections facilities already profiting from convict labor are champing at the bit to create isolationist capture-and-retention system where migrants are immediately transitioned into a penal labor system where they’re doing the same work they’re already doing, but the value is captured.
A thing Americans don’t learn about US slavery is how many slaves were skilled or semi-skilled workers that were rented out, with the local government acting as intermediate, holding the payment and assuring the slave traveled and worked in accordance with expectation. In the modern labor system there are a bunch of different methodologies to achieve the same result…but at some point we’re just going to back to captive labor. All the odd little laws being put up about child labor and protecting employers if their workers get hurt by heat, those are the frog being slowly boiled.
re: #175 Dangerman
honestly how can we NOT all get 1000% behind Biden and defeat this insanity
notice how he elides 15-20m undocumented smoothly into they are all dangerous people, criminals, prisoners, etc.
If he gets the Supreme Court to get rid of birthright citizenship, then millions of current citizens become illegal. Will Harris be rounded up also? Just crazy.
“Some will say now that I am calling America a Christian Nation. And so I am. And some will say that I am advocating Christian Nationalism. And so I do.”
— Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO), quoted by the Daily Beast.
re: #81 PhillyPretzel ✅
It is not a good day when your weather map look like this.
weather.gov
Post-Tropical Cyclone Beryl Advisory 45 (National Hurricane Center)
The centre of post-tropical cyclone Beryl is in southern Illinois. The storm is pushing the front across your region.
Tropical rainfall is predicted from Mississippi to Maine, along with severe thunderstorms and tornadoes.
At the link are maps showing predicted rainfall and path of Beryl.
re: #183 silverdolphin
If he gets the Supreme Court to get rid of birthright citizenship, then millions of current citizens become illegal. Will Harris be rounded up also? Just crazy.
The estimate is that about 12% of Americans are second generation - that’s roughly 40 million people. Given how bad they are at what they do, they’re probably going to go after anyone who was not born in the US and any one who has at least one parent that wasn’t born her, let’s assume that’s another 20 million people… so suddenly we have as many as 60 million stateless people?
re: #175 Dangerman
honestly how can we NOT all get 1000% behind Biden and defeat this insanity
notice how he elides 15-20m undocumented smoothly into they are all dangerous people, criminals, prisoners, etc.
What I don’t get is how this is so obviously untrue. Who can hear this and buy it? I live in the most diverse city in the country and in a minority area. Where is all this rapage and criming?
re: #187 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅
So I’m Dog sitting for a friend. The plumber shows up to fix old house basement shit. Won’t come in with the dog, so drag Tedward to another room. Arf ,Arf,Arf at being locked away. Plumber leaves..this is the result 😹🥺
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INNOCENT!
re: #18 Dr. Matt
Eddie Vedder Describes Pearl Jam’s Recent Health Issues as “Near-Death Experience”
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The theory was they canceled due to low ticket sales?? Gasp. That gorilla gif.
re: #106 EPR-radar
There’s almost never a serious primary vs. a sitting president, so I don’t know what clown-shoes here is going on about.
Not serious, my good man. Who could ever forget that statesman and scholar Vermin Supreme running in the primary for Obama’s second term.
re: #123 DodgerFan1988
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Ethnic Cleansing brought to you by Project 2025.
I hope a Native American takes his scalp
re: #135 Dangerman
it’s been in the narrative for a long time
election interference aside, tfg *has* to attract new voters.
so where do they come from?
answer: mostly there arent (m)any
Bowels of somewhere comes to mind
re: #123 DodgerFan1988
I’m assuming by “re-Americanize” he means he wants to see more white people around?
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